Jun 20, 2019
Michael Katilus' grew up in a tough part of upstate New York and it shows on his face.
His career as a social worker has given him insight into many aspects of human behavior and there's not much he hasn't seen.
Michael and Nic discuss how jiu jitsu ability doesn't always translate into morality or even decency, and how the art should be used to build better human beings instead of thugs.
Check out Michael's academy Lake Effect Martial Arts